To my knowledge MSE said they wanted to nerf his health so in future patch notes they can buff his weapons. More damage, slower cooldown, higher health, etc.

Basically making him MORE of a glass cannon. That being said I dislike his nerf as well. He was already a glass cannon if they wanted to lower his health then they should have made it to whenever your drone is destroyed then it should half your health that way you get punished for playing greedy or getting over confident. However, I still see this as a weird nerf. I think he was fine the way he was mostly because he was rarely used.

Quote from: Lucifuge on August 02, 2019, 05:57:53 PM

it was overnerfed
now only useable on slow/stationary targets
also good luck with any wardog-related mission

Ok returning player here, what's with MS over nerfing everything and forgetting about it?

I think its because some players complain about things being "overpowered" and threatening to leave the game until its fixed then once it becomes nerfed no one talks about it again. For example, The Whip for Valeria. It wasn't overpowered yet sense people complained about it they nerfed it. People who complained about it was happy the gun became useless and yet others complained about the nerf. MSE doesn't really know who to listen to so they leave the nerf or buff and wait a awhile to see if the scale of "NERF THIS!" or "BUFF THIS!" becomes more weighed in one favor than the other. Hope this makes sense

In the stream were they addressed this they said they made Schneider weaker and lowered his health so in future updates they can increase his drone both in damage and health I imagine to make him a sort of glass cannon (or more of one sense I kinda already saw him as that). However, I never really played with him. Not because I saw him as boring or weak I just never felt confident with him. I tried him out after the update and I just don't like him now. Before I could understand his usefulness but now he is just terrible. You are basically forced to use him as a sort of gimmick sniper and it just doesn't work. I feel Schneider is in the same group with Ginebra now were they over nerfed. Yes they can still be useful in a mission but now there are raiders that can do their job and more.   

I enjoy this idea, however, I don't see it as a viable change... Yes, making her a faster transformation makes her more offensive which will help her become better at defending herself. However, the reason I want her to be stress free is due to raiders like Harec and Shae or really anyone. You cannot get the drop on antagonist anymore the second they see the cougar they instantly aim for it or play defensive.

I had a tactic whenever it came with Ginebra that is no longer useful in the game. Granted I never won using this tactic but it was FUN. I used unlimited surge and used what I call "Cat and Mouse" I hit a single raider and run off causing them to chase me. I go behind a wall transform and wait for them to get close and punish them with her base gun or grapple. Most of the time the raiders get smart or just stop chasing me.

I hear the saying "Oh with Ginebra having stress she is able to get adds off her teammate. Which is true but not really...Most adds don't go for just the most stressed person and if they did then if you have any wardog faction raiders as a teammate then the adds will most likely go for them instead of Ginebra. I had more fun with Ginebra whenever she was stealthy and I know of a lot of other people who feel the same.

In my personal opinion it wasn't that bad until recently. In the past it was just as annoying but never THIS bad. In the past it mostly worked with a few "What the fuck" moments but now its like every moment is a "what the fuck" moment. Its getting to the point were I don't even go for CQC anymore and that's what I primarily go for. I love ambushing, grappling a roll, etc. It feels so rewarding in a game that is honestly not that rewarding after four games. I am a HUGE fan of Spacelords, Hell I'm thinking about getting a tattoo that represents Spacelords. But with how CQC is working I am slowly being pushed away from it.

Hihsasuke also wishes for Ginebra to be stress free. All Ginebra mains wish for Ginebra to be stress free. Her guns aren't bad and her card usage is on of the best in the game. It just pains me to see MSE take away so many playstyles just because a few people whined about it being "overpowered"

Every character has multiple uses for there ability. Harec can be used for CQC, got out of CQC, sneaky snipe, etc. Sooma can use her ability for support or offense. There is a lot more but I'm too lazy to list every raider.

Ginebra really only uses her ability to get out of trouble and even then the adds, antagonist, or raiders will just rush you until you revert out of cougar form. Yes the Cougar form takes a little longer to get out of but that doesn't matter in the large scheme of things. Ginebra use to be a fearful antagonist. She use to be able to ambush raiders even if they are grouped together. Her guns don't need to be buffed they do great damage and can help fellow raiders who may be in trouble. MSE has taken away multiple play styles that Ginebra had. Yes she still has some builds that can make her useable in missions but being useable doesn't make her FUN. I have only found one build that makes her semi useful as an antagonist but other that that she feels weak and overall not as good as a pick than other raiders.

MSE can we PLEASE make Ginebra stress free again? I understand in the past she could have ran around until the survival timer was up. Which honestly I didn't even see that overpowered but whatever.  With the "sudden death" feature Ginebra cant really do that anymore...

Ginebra was built around speed and stealth. You have taken away one of her specialties that her ability gave her. You can no longer ambush raiders. Harec's follow your cougar until they can snipe you, Shae can bewitch you so much easier, Konstantin can bubble you easier, Mikah can chase and shoot you down, Ayana can COMPLETELY shut your path down. Fighting a Ginebra is stupidly easy now and taken away the fun of using her. Please MSE bring the fun back into Spacelords...