The toxicity comes from the fact that this game is so complex it makes it impossible to properly balance.  That being such, it naturally attracts some scoundrels looking to exploit whatever imbalances are in the game's current state.  Obviously the solution is to separate the PvE and PvP modes, and give special exclusive rewards  for PvP.  CoD and Rainbow 6 Siege are both famous for their online PvP, but Zombies and Terrorist Hunt PvE are both very popular as well.

 MSE is stuck on keeping this niche as a 4v1 game like gollum is stuck on the ring.  It's time to swallow one's pride and evolve.  I believe this game is just as good if not better than WarFrame or Paladins, but the player base is obviously waaaaay lower.  Maybe it's time to take drastic action to fix that.

Using "vulgar" language isn't necessarily toxic.  I was obviously being tongue in cheek, if you know me, which you do, but if you want to react to it as if I was serious, then you're free to leave. 


I still enjoy antagging.  I'm just not able to get matches fast enough for my level of patience.  2/3 Hours queues is too much for me.

wtf?  You waited 3 hours for a game?!  Does this sound like a sustainable model to you?   

The forced random PvP is a joke.  R6Siege, SW Battlefront, Paladins, Overwatch, new call of duty and literally every other game I can think of have a co-op PvE mode where you can practice, have fun, and grind a bit in a less sweaty environment.  When you want to get sweaty you go to PvP.  If it wasn't forced, the antagonist wouldn't have to be undertuned.  Increase the rewards for PvP, decrease them for PvE, and get yourself a real game and real game commnunity going, otherwise see you later. 

"Even if you eliminate rewards, "

This would be great but will never happen.   I would love that actually, I would consider paying for it.  Sometimes I just want to have a chill casual game, I don't want grief.  My brother is very good at sniper in COD so it would be fun to fight him as harec.

I appreciate the response, but what makes the game most inaccessible for new players was not the aleph.  It was the passives/poor matchmaking (getting matched with veteran antags as a noob raider), and confusing inconsistent MMR.

Yes I agree, getting aleph from the elites did feel magical.  New COD is coming out soon and is going suck players from ALL other games, including spacelords.  I tried the beta and it felt amazing, even though I don't really like those mindless no-strategy type of games.  If I was you I'd make my experimentation decisions and all prioritization decisions wisely, as this will be a new and powerful dynamic in the gaming business (Black Ops 4 was a huge letdown, there is a big hunger for new COD). 

This is coming from someone who would like to see spacelords reach it's maximum potential.  Best wishes. 



 

I haven't played paladins in a while but I liked their com system.  There were like 60 combos with the D-Pad that were useful strategically but also just friendly and funny memes too.  Granted it took memorization and practice but as someone who doesn't like using a mic, I loved it.

"sorry"
"thanks"
"ok"
"group up"
"follow me"
"defend the objective"
"i need healing"
"my ultimate is ready"
"i'll attack right flank"
"i'll attack up the middle"
etc

Ok, I'll bite why iune is bad for invasion or bad pick im general? With last wish she one of strongest raiders around. Also a perfect counter to Alicia btw. Pop go the head.

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Hornet, granny, last wish, ingrid, jav, ionizer, ignis, hatchet, jk5 there probably more, but that just from top of my head. Some will be harder if she using sassy.

 I won't bite.  It's a subjective experience I am relaying and not worthy of debate.  I can't play my favorite raider because I am much better in PvP with other raiders, and I don't want to be dead most of the match.  If it's happening to me, it's happening to other people as well.

Spacelords can be very fun and strategy/skill is a factor, but there's a reason some games have big international tournaments with big cash prizes and spacelords doesn't have any tournaments for any money.  Stop pretending it's balanced, unbroken, and non-random.  "Git Gud" is not a substantive argument in this particular situation.  Get over it.     

i'm rendered to a point where i'm taking shae in missions where she is utterly not recommended, just to prevent an alicia intrusion...

Yes, and that's why the matchmaking system is dumb.  If there are hard counters in the game you should be able to switch characters between spawns.  I realize that is a buff to raider, but nerf them in another way.  Reduce the life pool, reduce the alephs around, whatever, get creative.  But this random matchmaking system is just horrible.  I'll repeat this for the 4th time, but my favorite character was Iune but I would never play her because I never knew if I was going to get a tier 1 invasion, a tier 6 invasion, or no invasion at all.  I don't understand why everything has to be so random.