Thanks all for sharing your thoughts. As you already know, Spacelords is a living, ongoing game, and we make adjustments based in the data we receive from hundreds of games -they are not done arbitrarily.

Of course, the data is not infalible. Please, keep adding feedback to this thread. The more data we have that goes beyond the merely numerical, the more informed our future adjustements will be.

Just a quick reminder: the Antagonist will be the start of the 4th milestone of the Spacelords Roadmap: The Aurora Spectres. Its role will be  heavily revised once we get there.

Once again, thanks all for your support.

A lot of these comments have been made for a long time outside of this thread. Draco said it is the worst he has ever seen it since a year but I haven't played for a year and I can tell things have not gotten much better even with the daily adjustments that are made to the system.

I played at 50% MMR as Raider and got matched with a bunch of guys at my similar player level. We got an Antagonist which was far far lower level than even our lowest level Raider. This Antagonist was rated as 34% difficulty and the AI became gods. There were so many of them it was absolutely ridiculous.

This was on White Noise; we had swarms of miners, a Nimrod that was de-graving every 20 seconds with a 5 second warning(the Antagonist could not even keep up) and Elites that shrug off a Yama Boom Boom shot to the face. The difference in MMR made the match a joke. The Antagonist got so many kills because..we just had no option but to retreat from the swarms of AI. We did win though. The Nimrod was goin' bonkers near the end and the Antagonist and the AI was getting de-graved like every second, we all just took to running from the de-gravs because they came so fast and without warning. It was unlike any White Noise match I have ever played. It was nonsense.

On the other hand, when I am given an Antagonist that is similarly rated to my own MMR then I see the AI is absolute garbage. Makes it so easy that Antagonists just quit more often than not. They basically never win, I haven't lost to one in awhile because..I can just bum rush them like usual.

Nothing has changed, except for the range of MMRs makes it far more likely for me to run into low MMR Antagonist so I get to see super AI more often cause of all the little baby Antagonists and shit AI more often when I meet an Antagonist at my MMR or higher. And as Draco and Placelord said. There are so many nerfs to Antagonist one begins to wonder if MSE is folding to the constant pressure from the PvE crowd to remove the feature. It certainly looks like that is where things are going.

There is a difference between making it harder for more skilled players and making it negligible if you spawn or not. Currently, and as before, there is really no point in having a high MMR. Now with a 8.0 you get substantial rewards and you can be 30% MMR for that, so Drow is right also. Lowering your MMR is still a very viable strategy towards manipulating the difficulty and there is still little reason not to do so.

Hey, alright. I shall await the flags then.

And since you didn't hit up on my interpretation about HIVE's lore then I am going to blindly assume that a lot more things are going to be Shamash/Ancient Local focused in the near future. Sooma comes to mind.

Draco is right, we shouldn't take a community member's response as fact towards any one action.

But the fact that they are relying on that type of dissemination of information seems..lazy and obtuse. Not the effort of a group of professionals.

Arnold is right also. Something that is official should be given higher priority over something that is unofficial.

There hasn't been any MSE activity here since SpaceGuilds dropped, though. I doubt we will see anything soon that has any sort of weight.

For now, it seems that if you want to be clued in then you must use the discord. Since..there still hasn't been an official response to this thread but there has been one on the discord and the discord response was almost immediate. That is bogus.

When the answers to forum questions can only be found on the discord server one begins to wonder what the point of the forums are.

It took a community member who spends time in both for this information to arise.

The fuck.

They are cool ideas. Unfortunately, the guilds are so whacked out right now I doubt they are gonna get around to implementing anything like bounties, advanced guild communication or guild events.

MSE was 100% about the guilds and when they released it was a maelstrom of bugs and nonsense that, as far as I know, hasn't even been acknowledged by the developers.

They promoted the idea of a private aequilibrium but it is super broken.

They promoted the idea of banners and claiming your supremacy in a mission, I might be missing something but as far as I can tell the banner is just for the main menu. They mentioned something about planting a flag awhile back but..I don't see any flags.

If you are in a guild you cannot even see the guild list anymore. It makes it strangely..claustrophobic. A small quibble but I'd like to be able to see what other people came up with even if I have my own guild.

Not to mention all the bugs and crashes that came with the patch, dunno if they fixed it but..wow, it is very poor presentation.

As it stands, guilds are a huge letdown to me. I was expecting them to be basic MMO affairs but they are even less than that.

What is worse is that they seem to believe we should all be stoked about them. I mean..seriously; has anyone at MSE ever been in a guild for any game ever? I don't think so. I have played no-name Korean games with better guild systems.

If their intent was to build off this patch with more then..they should have just waited for the more to be ready. There is literally no point to having a guild. I know that your ideas are about adding more to the feature but..a lot of that type of stuff should have already been on the plate when I downloaded the patch.

They have a huge amount of problems to fix and seeing how long it took them to add a solution to duplicates I wouldn't hold my breath for any additional features.

And, you're right, they did add stuff. But it is stuff that has been wanted for a LONG time and, frankly, should have been added months ago. Instead they were still fixing their MMR system which has been in the game for like..ever, as far as I know. They still haven't fixed it though.

I just..bleh..I expected very little and I got less than that from MSE.

Cool ideas though.

P.S.
Just like..a totally side thing but they finally fixed HIVE's nityat skin lore and I'm like..holy shit. They removed the word "human" from it and..just like..wow, MSE clearly just doesn't give a shit. Why was it ever about a human general in the first place? What the fuck? Now it is clearly saying that Shamash and HIVE have some type of history together.

There is a huge difference between having a cryptic non-story and not knowing what the fuck the story is. Eh. Not really surprised by the mediocrity anymore.

Now that you mention it..with his red suit and white hair..hmm..

I'm not saying having a compass wouldn't make it easier to pinpoint the location of an Antagonist. My point is that it will make TOO easy to pinpoint the location of the Antagonist.

Consider that a compass was probably once part of the Raid-ar. Consider the Raid-ar's stark presentation. They opted for us to have something delineating enemy presence and yet there are no indicators of cardinal directions. Why is this the case? Because it makes it TOO easy to fight someone. It gives too much advantage to whichever side can utilize the compass the most and that is the side with the most human players, the Raiders.

Placelord, you are thinking like a player who wants an advantage not a game developer trying to create a balanced system. Again, I see that as nonsense.

Also, this is hardly controversial. Stop acting like it is some big deal that you necro-posted an almost dead thread about a subject no one really cares about. And if you continue to ignore my feedback and act like a victim cause it isn't what you wanted to read then I too will not bother anymore with you.

As it stands, I am the only person to give you detailed feedback about your ideas and you have been nothing but a child about it.