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BARRACKS => Gameplay Feedback => Topic started by: TheHex on May 15, 2019, 10:37:44 PM

Title: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: TheHex on May 15, 2019, 10:37:44 PM
Why the mission dificulty is HIGHER THAN THE MMR OF THE ANTAG AND RAIDER TEAM??? IS THAT INTENTIONAL ? I'm sick of playing this game once again because of this broken shit. Not to mention the 5ht Concil shotgun knock back (every shot).
Grunts shooting forever (they almost NEVER reload and the damage is ridiculous, even after killing you, they will keep shooting if someone else is close)
Elites Shooting as soon as they get wounded.
Dodge beating grapple (yea, its happening alot)
Grapple dodging strikes (same thing)
Low blow with more than 6 enginiers at the same time.
Now: Check the MMR and the Mission dificulty https://imgur.com/a/GX4woFr
I like a challenge, The game is awesome BUT those things makes me want to unninstall the game forever.
Now I understand why ppl rather play -10 to 10 MMr.
All I want to know is: Is that Mission dificulty correct? Will it be like that forever?
Thx and sorry for my bad english.
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: Addy253 on May 16, 2019, 12:24:58 AM
its not meant to be a thing for some weird ass reason the game waaay overcompensates the mmr when an antag is present its happen to me a handful of times sadly not when i antag tho the devs are aware of the issue when it will get fixed is another question
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: TheHex on May 16, 2019, 02:37:16 AM
So... here's the thing.
https://imgur.com/a/SylZyEw
Against a even higher MMr antag, the dificulty is alot lower.
The game tries to compensate a BAD antag with greater AI dificulty? This is bullshit!
The antag must EARN the victory. The way it is right now, the antag just need to hide and wait for the AI do the work and just finish the raiders e.e
wtf man!!
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: B30 on May 16, 2019, 09:18:44 AM
Well, it's like these things, …
(https://i.imgur.com/594pTZK.png)
… you never know what you'll get. Have experienced everything I think, from easier than easy to hard as hell. It's almost as if it were pure coincidence (like the bp roll)!? But what do I know? Is probably just crazy mmr!?  ::)
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: Omega_Man on May 16, 2019, 03:25:06 PM
There are definitely too many engineers spawning on Low Blow. They're annoying as hell.
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: TheHex on May 16, 2019, 03:46:43 PM
Here's another example:
https://imgur.com/a/CLoqv2b
Again. Bad antag, Greater AI dificulty...
Oh boy and i thought the Identity Update was going to solve many things... not at all
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: TheHex on May 16, 2019, 04:05:24 PM
ANOTHER FUCKING THING.
What's the point on protecting the 2nd protector in Fistful of Sands if: ANYONE CAN DESTROY THAT OLD MAN IN 5 SECS??????? THERES NO WAY TO PROTECT THAT
IF A AYANA WITH THE RARE WEAPON IS THERE, HE DIES IN 2 SECS.
IF HAREC WITH EASTEREGG IS THERE. HE IS DEEEEEEEEEEAD
IF ANYONE IS THERE HE IS DEAD.
please stop focusing in microtranstactions and try to save the game from those gamebreking things
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: Deh_Toni on May 16, 2019, 07:41:19 PM
I agree with you Hex, unfortunally balance is this game is really flawed (some times for the raiders and other to antags).
 CQC is still really buggy for about what 6 months or more?
But hey we got a couple blades and some dances now =)
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: Eizze on May 16, 2019, 09:38:29 PM
ANOTHER FUCKING THING.
What's the point on protecting the 2nd protector in Fistful of Sands if: ANYONE CAN DESTROY THAT OLD MAN IN 5 SECS??????? THERES NO WAY TO PROTECT THAT
IF A AYANA WITH THE RARE WEAPON IS THERE, HE DIES IN 2 SECS.
IF HAREC WITH EASTEREGG IS THERE. HE IS DEEEEEEEEEEAD
IF ANYONE IS THERE HE IS DEAD.
please stop focusing in microtranstactions and try to save the game from those gamebreking things

you haven't met a aimbot Harec anatag with headshot refresh stalk cd card, have you? he wipes out the whole team before the raiders active the 1st pillar :)
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: TheHex on May 17, 2019, 02:26:08 AM

you haven't met a aimbot Harec anatag with headshot refresh stalk cd card, have you? he wipes out the whole team before the raiders active the 1st pillar :)

Not yet... Did anybody reported him ?
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: TheHex on May 17, 2019, 08:44:12 PM
Any MSE will answer this topic? I'm still waiting -.-
Here, have a little more:
https://imgur.com/a/FRbLxkQ
https://imgur.com/kidUZU0
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: TheHex on May 21, 2019, 04:27:18 PM
Day 6: Still waiting for MsE Answer... Its been 6 days without playing and patiently waiting for an answer...
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: Eliakin on May 21, 2019, 07:09:36 PM
Better to give up, MSE most of the time just listen of the discord people, not to mention that MMR has always been bad since the launch and the improvements that have been made in it, have not changed much and always leave the game bad.
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: MSE_Karen on May 22, 2019, 10:25:56 AM
Hi guys,

Sorry for the late reply. I commented on another thread there are some problems related with matchmaking, so we are doing some testing in order to fix them as soon as possible.

We apologize for the inconveniences this may caused to you.
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: TheHex on March 10, 2020, 01:01:10 AM
Almost 1 year after the post was made... We Still have the same unsolved problem.
https://imgur.com/8Ywr6GZ
Did the antag played well? NO HE DID'NT.
Did the AI did all the job? YES THEY DID.
One year ago I made the same post about Low Blow situation. (5+  engineers alive at the same time.) Still unfixed and no reply on my topics. So, why not repost on the same topic that at least 1 staff member answered? Here, take a look.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/785254538965230628/A1E253F6D254DCE555345F4BB417C45684DF7CF8/
Again. did the antag played well? Absolutely not.
The game OVERCOMPENSATES a bad antag with low MMR with a WAAAAAY greater AI dificulty.
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: MSE_Laura on March 10, 2020, 10:59:52 AM
Hey TheHex,
First of all, sorry you had a bad experience :-( 
Would you say this happens a lot or is it just at certain times when the antag MMR is significatively lower than the raiders' average MMR?
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: TheHex on March 12, 2020, 09:50:41 PM
Hello Laura, how are you?
Yes, this happens all the time. People started to figure out that high antag mmr means grunts/elites/aleph requirements alot easier to manage.
ppl started to drop their mmr to gett a better AI, even before the  update that allowed the antag to command troops.
I do not think that ppl who lower their mmr on porpuse just to get a advantage wrong, since its how the game works, they only take advantage of that... but... That does'nt mean that it SHOULD happen like that.
That's why I'm against the use of MMR on ANY kind of game. That only make queues take longer and longer to find a match. Not to mention again the AI dificulty, I love a challenge but, that is BS xD
Another thing about the MMR system, the queue times are 5+ minutes. Everytime I try to solo queue as raider, I do it while watching youtube videos because I know that the queue will take forever to get me a match...
But yea, that happens alot. If the Antag MMR is around 60, the mission dificulty will go like 20-30. If the Antag MMR is below 30, the mission dificulty will spike to 60+. Grunts will shoot like 50 times before reloading, Elites will shoot their shotguns like 15-25 times without a single reload (in case of 5th concil, they will knock you back EVERY TIME they shoot, does'nt matter the range). The game becomes more of a frustration than a challenge... Sorry for changing subjects mid speach.
Title: Re: So... Is this supposed to be happening?
Post by: TheHex on March 14, 2020, 04:56:10 AM
>> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588522584921079808/688233951159910441/20200314004259_1.jpg