We should toss Last Wish and JK5 into that barrel as well.

Please put a goddamn muzzle on that weapon and nerf it already. You have a 140 health opponent with more fire power than most of the characters in the game. At least with the Locals they sacrifice health for that damage they do and you can theoretically kill them quick enough. But at 140 health very few people can damage her faster than she damages you.

You devs need to play more. Apprently you have never been shot at in game by the weapons you design.

All they have to do is make it so that when it bounces or travels it uses ammo. Problem solved, then she can't sit there like a coward and camp with no consequence.

I think it would also help the antag a lot and keep the antag with bringing swift punishment if After a certain number of deaths WHEN on empty mag, it refills antag ammo to max.
  It's extremely hard to get ammo when you're the only living being on the map and they are swiping through objectives like people do on those phone dating apps. It will also allow the antag to not only not have to worry about getting up close and personal but allow them to play the desired roll they'd like to. (I.e. sniper since shae and har have the lowest vitality due to their "class")

 Whatcha think?

I don't want to sound too critical. And I appreciate people posting. But in my opinion antags have too much already. Raiders effectively got kicked in the balls with the Sudden Death nerf, and I call it what it is, a nerf. On top of this antags have improves spawn points, Master of Puppets, infinite lives, can see what Raiders choose but we cannot see what they choose, can get aleph and ammo now easier than ever because ammo drops and aleph spawns, not to mention they can STEAL aleph from antags now slowing the mission even further and finally they're going to be getting Aurora Specters. I'm good man. I don't need to worry about more bullshit from antags.

You already can't attack and are weak in cougar form. If a Raider can see and keep up with you (because it's speed was nerfed) and kill you anyways, what the hell is it for then?

These are the reasons I feel the game should allow optional PvP:
1. Meta slave: You either play the characters you enjoy and if those characters you find fun aren't the ordained mete characters specifically tailored to that mission you will be at a disadvantage with an antag. So you really have fun if you happen to like one of the lower tier characters. You just have to play the same characters for certain missions because you never know when you'll get invaded.

2. MMR and match making. New players get shit on all the time by antags. And with Sudden Death there really isn't anything a higher level player can do if the antag chooses to just pick apart lower level players until they use up all your lives. I've been in so many games where I didn't die at all to antag but they won anyways. This feels horrible. This is really no fun at all. And frankly I don't want this game to be a baby sitting simulator.

3. Many people just don't like the PvP, at least not in its current state. If there is a few weapons that are overpowered, if the game balance is wrong, if there are certain characters that are just broken and MSE hasn't caught on yet then why should people have to suffer through these mistakes and oversights? If they had the option to PvP then they could choose to avoid it if it's currently not to their liking. Or they can, you know, stop playing? I'm sure that would be better for the game. At least if they can choose you still keep the players playing.

4. It's simply not rewarding for the Raiders. I could care less what rewards the antag gets, they CHOSE to invade others missions. You cannot fel sorry for them on principal. But Raiders really lose out when they get invaded. You DO NOT get more rewards for getting invaded. And you would have progressed much better without an invasion. If you win as a raider you are getting nothing more than you would have gotten anyways. Seems a waste of time for us.

5. It's not true PvP. Simply put, there is passive stats and forge levels. This means there will always bee a shadow of doubt as to why you lost or won. If your opponent was a tier 6 and you were a tier 1 then it;s obvious why you won and, at the very least, what contributed towards that win and that was passives and forge level. In if the inverse were true you would know that you were beaten because your opponent had more at their disposal to use against you. And saying they were more skilled is even worse. Sure give a skilled player even MORE inherent circumstantial advantage, that make it more fair? TRUE PvP has opponents who adhere to the same level of power.

6. Let players enjoy the game with their friends how they wish. Many people like PvP. And those people should play PvP together. Nothing wrong with that. Other people, however, despise it and would rather avoid it because they simply do not enjoy it. It has nothing to do with win lose. Some people may feel they don't want to take part in robbing others of their rewards. They don't want to feel they've wasted their time or to waste another persons time and progress. Not everyone enjoys it. Some people are peaceful minded people who just want to relax and have fun with friends and don't find griefing others fun.

7. Hasn't it been long enough? I mean, the game is going through a bit of turmoil right now with a lot of changes that not everyone likes. I doubt it could do all that much harm to have the option at this point. I mean, has the mandated model been working out so far?

I was just playing Antag (MMR35) and getting shitstomped for the last 5 matches. I’m was stewing in the flaming dumpster of Raiders that do so much damage in a single gunshot they do not down me but splatter me all over the ground/walls, Ad spawns are almost nonexistent and when they do appear, they are totally useless. Elite’s aren’t even a momentary distraction and when I do get a chance to do something my gun feels like it’s full of pillow stuffing and I get one punched in CQC.  Then after the results screen on my fifth match I get the "You are being penalized for quitting". Here’s the thing I DID'T QUIT!
There is a difference between getting instgibbed as the antag and quitting Mercury Steam. One is leaving the match before it's completion and the other is your SHITTY MATCHMAKEING!!!

Was it Konstantin with o.Shtorm? Because that has been an issue lately for a lot of folks.