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Gameplay Feedback / New player turn offs and antag and MMR manipulation
on: September 14, 2019, 07:39:22 PM
As a new player this game got me hooked Right off the bat yu get the rush of hectic combat and raiders who change the game dynamics just by their playstyle.
But something that stands out right from the start is the bs system it has set up. Now I love antag I love it, I love playing as one. But please tell me why its set-up to be the most bs mode around.
Antang high mmr vs low mmr. You get wiped, stomped pig roasted. You get a team of tier4+purps and they camp spawns, they have high forge weapons and upped passives, and with this meta Im seeing of take top tier characters with good aoe guns or abilities you cant do anything but sit and emote.
THe npc dose nothing but die...basically showing you what your next 15min is going to be like.
Tat purp team will basically toy with you forever. Not caring about objectives but just sit around to kill you and rack up w.e they trying to et by doing so.
Maps....as an antag there are maps where it dose not matter what antag you choose cause its just a death trap for you...you can pick the beefiest raiders and have maxed cards and low lvl raiders will just stomped you cause if they dont have 12 year old mentality they will work together to kill you when you take your first breath.
MMR conditioning......What I mean is Ive been seeing none stop purps taking tier 6 players 2-3 purps then 1-2 tiers 6 whites just to alter the mmr. Now i have a mmr of 26% ave and no matter what my ai is weak. This game dose not shift difficulty based on tier, weapons, or anything that makes sense but on how many games you win average. So I can either have a team of purps and intentionally lose games to lower ai difficulty or take some tier4- whites to do the same. If a antag (ME) comes in even better because then its a auto Very easy diff setting on A.I and even bosses.
Best antag is harac......hmm I agree especially when he has a lvl 10 forge ignis and better yet on pc where you can drag mouse and shoot.
Thats the next part the crazy bs the gaming world has of making pc dn console players play together. I dont want to hear spoof from pc players that there is no diff that they have no advantages cause they tried both and feel the same....Tell your significant other lies but not me please. I would never play a moba with a controller why cause it needs a mouse for fine control so why would a shooter be diff in those regards. PC players claim everything better on pc so why the thirsty need for them to play with console players?
Letting pc players play with console players just takes whats bad with this gam to the extreme. @2 tier 1purps and two tier6 whites? You cant say that isnt manipulating the mmr difficulty system.
Ive read that 40-60% is a good mmr range........BS...BS....maybe when it was only on pc but not now not after you have people for w.e reason have the need to stomp everyone through shady means.
"GIT GUD" "LEARN RESPAWNS" "PICK RIGH CHAMP AGAINST RAIDERS" Almost all fair respawns what the point when other know them as well and can lay down aoe..lingering aoe to kill you off the hop. Picking the right champs matters little when you have a meta set up with characters that are almost good on any map. GIt gud how when you have purps manipulating the mmr for their OWN enjoyment. Again making consol players and pc play together is makes it all the worse.
Same thing applies to when you play as a raider....a newbie and you got a purp lowering their mmr to stomp white tier with ease. Like make it so when you get to a certain tier your mmr can drop past a certain %. I as a raider full of whites dont want to see a purp tier being carried by npcs. Watching 5 elites steam roll team while purp in the back twerking. IMa enjoy the show but still be pissed.
This game is so much fun but I feeling and seeing more negatives then the positives. Im stubborn and a bit of a masochist so Ill keep at it till I fully hate this game. There are clears as day negatives that can be changed for the better but from all that I can pull up and read from 2017 its like the devs have this "Naw its fine yall just need to GIT GUD (WATCH DEVS PLAY ANTANG and you can see the frustration on their faces and they force smile spoon feed bs as they experience the same bs people tell em) as if they made the perfect system.
IDK there have been so many games I played and they died out because of foolish choices. The choices in this are the same choices many other games died off of because of. Top tier ideas but chewed gum mechanics...and its never the big things its always a bunch of small things.
But something that stands out right from the start is the bs system it has set up. Now I love antag I love it, I love playing as one. But please tell me why its set-up to be the most bs mode around.
Antang high mmr vs low mmr. You get wiped, stomped pig roasted. You get a team of tier4+purps and they camp spawns, they have high forge weapons and upped passives, and with this meta Im seeing of take top tier characters with good aoe guns or abilities you cant do anything but sit and emote.
THe npc dose nothing but die...basically showing you what your next 15min is going to be like.
Tat purp team will basically toy with you forever. Not caring about objectives but just sit around to kill you and rack up w.e they trying to et by doing so.
Maps....as an antag there are maps where it dose not matter what antag you choose cause its just a death trap for you...you can pick the beefiest raiders and have maxed cards and low lvl raiders will just stomped you cause if they dont have 12 year old mentality they will work together to kill you when you take your first breath.
MMR conditioning......What I mean is Ive been seeing none stop purps taking tier 6 players 2-3 purps then 1-2 tiers 6 whites just to alter the mmr. Now i have a mmr of 26% ave and no matter what my ai is weak. This game dose not shift difficulty based on tier, weapons, or anything that makes sense but on how many games you win average. So I can either have a team of purps and intentionally lose games to lower ai difficulty or take some tier4- whites to do the same. If a antag (ME) comes in even better because then its a auto Very easy diff setting on A.I and even bosses.
Best antag is harac......hmm I agree especially when he has a lvl 10 forge ignis and better yet on pc where you can drag mouse and shoot.
Thats the next part the crazy bs the gaming world has of making pc dn console players play together. I dont want to hear spoof from pc players that there is no diff that they have no advantages cause they tried both and feel the same....Tell your significant other lies but not me please. I would never play a moba with a controller why cause it needs a mouse for fine control so why would a shooter be diff in those regards. PC players claim everything better on pc so why the thirsty need for them to play with console players?
Letting pc players play with console players just takes whats bad with this gam to the extreme. @2 tier 1purps and two tier6 whites? You cant say that isnt manipulating the mmr difficulty system.
Ive read that 40-60% is a good mmr range........BS...BS....maybe when it was only on pc but not now not after you have people for w.e reason have the need to stomp everyone through shady means.
"GIT GUD" "LEARN RESPAWNS" "PICK RIGH CHAMP AGAINST RAIDERS" Almost all fair respawns what the point when other know them as well and can lay down aoe..lingering aoe to kill you off the hop. Picking the right champs matters little when you have a meta set up with characters that are almost good on any map. GIt gud how when you have purps manipulating the mmr for their OWN enjoyment. Again making consol players and pc play together is makes it all the worse.
Same thing applies to when you play as a raider....a newbie and you got a purp lowering their mmr to stomp white tier with ease. Like make it so when you get to a certain tier your mmr can drop past a certain %. I as a raider full of whites dont want to see a purp tier being carried by npcs. Watching 5 elites steam roll team while purp in the back twerking. IMa enjoy the show but still be pissed.
This game is so much fun but I feeling and seeing more negatives then the positives. Im stubborn and a bit of a masochist so Ill keep at it till I fully hate this game. There are clears as day negatives that can be changed for the better but from all that I can pull up and read from 2017 its like the devs have this "Naw its fine yall just need to GIT GUD (WATCH DEVS PLAY ANTANG and you can see the frustration on their faces and they force smile spoon feed bs as they experience the same bs people tell em) as if they made the perfect system.
IDK there have been so many games I played and they died out because of foolish choices. The choices in this are the same choices many other games died off of because of. Top tier ideas but chewed gum mechanics...and its never the big things its always a bunch of small things.