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Level9Drow

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Schneider Escort mission
on: April 14, 2018, 03:04:44 AM
This is currently the most frustrating and annoting mission. Can we reduce the adds that spawn on this mission by a bit?

Reason: It is possible to SSSSLLLLOOOOOOWWWLLLLYYYY get through the missions, but it takes 40 minutes, and hour, etc... and the rewards are pathetic for that slice of time. This mission needs to either reward a LOT more or the adds need to reduce.

I now decline this mission whenever it comes up, it's a horrible experience. Waste of time, not worth the rewards.

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Re: Schneider Escort mission
Reply #1 on: April 14, 2018, 03:19:19 AM
Agreed, this mission is HELL. Not only the first part, but even the second part, there's just all kinds of crap going on, missiles, bullets, silent elites that grab or snipe you, exploding flowers, etc....

Oh and Schneider's hitbox on his mech attacks are completely unclear. As a Dark Souls and Let It Die veteran, I am used to clear, concise, easy to see hitboxes that match up with the 3D mesh of the object attacking me. If I am in front of Schneider, his sword swing attack hits everything in the general area of "in front of Schneider". Rolling does not save me, moving forward or backward. I am clearly not coming into contact with any part of his attack, but it still hits. Same for his stomps, which have like 5-10 meters of completely invisible AOE, but they don't hurt as much and are easier to avoid.

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Re: Schneider Escort mission
Reply #2 on: April 14, 2018, 03:51:51 AM
Agreed, this mission is HELL. Not only the first part, but even the second part, there's just all kinds of crap going on, missiles, bullets, silent elites that grab or snipe you, exploding flowers, etc....

Oh and Schneider's hitbox on his mech attacks are completely unclear. As a Dark Souls and Let It Die veteran, I am used to clear, concise, easy to see hitboxes that match up with the 3D mesh of the object attacking me. If I am in front of Schneider, his sword swing attack hits everything in the general area of "in front of Schneider". Rolling does not save me, moving forward or backward. I am clearly not coming into contact with any part of his attack, but it still hits. Same for his stomps, which have like 5-10 meters of completely invisible AOE, but they don't hurt as much and are easier to avoid.
This is way of topic but you played Let It Die!? I didn't know I'd find someone in another game that played something pretty niche.... granted thus is too

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Re: Schneider Escort mission
Reply #3 on: April 14, 2018, 08:14:21 AM
This is way of topic but you played Let It Die!? I didn't know I'd find someone in another game that played something pretty niche.... granted thus is too
lol, I played it religiously for several months upon release, but then I stopped for a bit shortly before the first Forceman came out.
Looked at the state of the game after the 2nd and 3rd Forcemen releases, and it became a disgusting poster child of shitty business practices and devs choosing to answer all player complaints with "here's a solution, it involves spending money"

So I have sadly deleted it off my hard drive, a big waste of however much I spent on it and at least 200+ hours. Super cool base game, but it pretty much defines pay 2 win. Sorry, pay 2 maybe win (since they have a lot of very powerful upgrades locked behind premium death metal loot boxes).
I never even got a Serial Killer sticker....

So yeah off topic, it was fun while it lasted but I can't support it anymore.

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Re: Schneider Escort mission
Reply #4 on: April 16, 2018, 12:55:49 PM
Wow. Super difficult mission where you have to have 1 guy stay on upper ledge and pick off engineers, 1 guy escort Schneider and 2 others to beat the hell out of everyone alive. The first phase can be done within 5 minutes. Boss fight - kill mobs, activate flowers, explode flowers when Schneider's nearby. Yes, this mission takes forever with special people and it can be over in ten minutes if you simply do what has to be done.

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Re: Schneider Escort mission
Reply #5 on: April 16, 2018, 08:05:15 PM
Wow. Super difficult mission where you have to have 1 guy stay on upper ledge and pick off engineers, 1 guy escort Schneider and 2 others to beat the hell out of everyone alive. The first phase can be done within 5 minutes. Boss fight - kill mobs, activate flowers, explode flowers when Schneider's nearby. Yes, this mission takes forever with special people and it can be over in ten minutes if you simply do what has to be done.

Nah, too many adds. I've already tried what you have said, multiple times. I already figures this would be what needed to be done. But the adds do damage, and from multiple angles, because their spawn points are all over the place. You have some up top a roof, andother on a lower platform, a few on the ground, another two on the cliff, all shooting you or Schneider. No hero can move that fast, to all thos positions and kill them fast enough, especially at higher MMR. Remember these are Hedes Division so they take a LOT to kill.

Adds need to be reduces a bit. The mission isn't worth it's rewards.

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Re: Schneider Escort mission
Reply #6 on: April 16, 2018, 08:27:22 PM
With the right team, man the mission goes so smooth, but if something goes wrong then ALL the progress gets reset and you start from scratch again.  It can kill your spirit.  Hah.

I think it's difficulty is nice.  Makes you feel triumphant when it comes together.  One of the more rewarding missions to win.  And most frustrating mission in general. (And fistful of sand with the super mook damage to the Protector now.)

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Re: Schneider Escort mission
Reply #7 on: April 16, 2018, 08:45:25 PM
I think the best solution is to have less adds when you solo-queue. This quest is near impossible at 50% plus difficulty with a bunch of randoms doing it.

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Re: Schneider Escort mission
Reply #8 on: April 16, 2018, 09:14:54 PM
Take Iune with the Vortex and camp up top.  You can keep engineers in check all by yourself.  Just hope one random can get aleph.  Heh.